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E-37 And I said, "Now, if you believe with all your heart, and you prove to me now that you've got faith... Now, you look right directly at that bracelet," and it hanging there in mid-air, "and you make that bracelet swing around and around in the room. Then you make it swing back and forth in the room, and then stop it, and I'll believe you have faith."
She said, "Oh, Brother Branham," said, "my, why ask me something like that?"
I said, "I wanted to see if you had faith." I said, "Jesus said, 'All things are possible if you believe.'"

This is a funny one.

It is not only a magician's trick, but a Hindu practice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkBbin3sIrg&feature=related

One of the other strange things, when you think about it, is the reference you made in the other post to his longing to take a trip to India.

The Hindi people also teach face reading and discernment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXQ2zzJWYtQ&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL9E1D02C9B4AD214F

Magicians for years have used these techniques, and have amazing "discernment" of their own:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoMmZBFfm-4

I just came across this today, "cold reading".

This funny old man takes all of these crazy ideas, and debunks them one-by-one. Through knowing the general assumptions that people will make, and "cold reading," he can perform some "magic" discernment

http://www.ted.com/talks/james_randi.html

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E-40 Then of course, putting my mind on it, and having her to watch that and not me. As many times in a meeting, I'll take any cross-eyed child you've got in this meeting, you bring it up here without even praying for it, and just let me look at it straight in the eyes like that, I'll make its eyes come straight. But when I turn my head... [End of record--Ed.]

Here he applies the same trick to a cross-eyed child.

E-46 I said, "Now, look, there was an Angel came down into the room and told me that way back, back 'fore I was born, was foreordained to have a gift of Divine healing. . And if I could get the people to believe me (believe me), and would be sincere when I prayed, that nothing would stand before the prayer."
I said, "Therefore, speaking face to face with this supernatural Being, I believe it with all my heart. And if I can get you to believe me with all your heart, that's what moves God, and then you're healed. Your faith has saved you."

...now that's just a weird thing to say, isn't it?



This was the first thing that made me realize that I REALLY needed to get back to the Bible.

Why was it "believe me" instead of "believe God?" Did Paul go forth healing the sick who believed on ... Paul?

Here is another dimension on WMB moving the little bracelet:



God did not move the bracelet and neither did Satan, but I did said WMB.

Within the context of the girl's healing what can we say about what exactly healed her? I think that we can safely say that WMB healed her. That, however, is a problem. It was a man's "power" that healed her, not a spiritual power. This incident (if it was real) occurred in the days of Milltown, where WMB preached from around 1940 (Rebekah Branham Smith, Only Believe, pp. 4, 7) which was around 1940 as we see from Rebekah's account:



That all means that this occurred prior to WMB's alleged angelic commission of 1946. Why did the angel have to come and give WMB the gift of healing for the nations when he already had that power within himself years earlier? We know, of course, from WMB's 1945 booklet, The Heavenly Vision, (I was Not Disobedient to the Heavenly Vision), that he made reference to the Milltown "revival" and how he received that "Double portion" to heal. This booklet is no longer in print and one of the reasons is that it conflicts with his 1946 "commission.

Tsur

WOW.

That raises some good questions, and poses some interesting problems.

According to the story he first gave the news on June 30, 1947, He did not receive his calling until "11 months prior" Before that, he was a game warden -- which can't be verified.

United Press news story:
http://www.seekyethetruth.com/files/organization57/downloads/henry.pdf

Which was it, 1940 or 1946? Eleven months or 72?

A relative of WMB's "financial agent" (why did he need this if he had very little money?) compared the healings to a well-known agnostic.

Funny how he, while criticizing divine healing, points out that "angels of light" can be "of either side." -- yet the many do believe in divine healing not recognize to test for this, or even know that comes from the Bible.

How strange the reasoning here on this topic.

1. Jesus said: " MARK 9:23 † Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth."
All THINGS-NOT SOME BUT ALL THINGS.

Thus moving a bracelet is part of the ALL THINGS possible to the believer. Thus if you by faith in God's ability ask the Lord anything you can have ALL THINGS, and move all things. Talk about moving things:

" LUKE 17:6 † And the Lord said, If ye had faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye might say unto this sycamine tree, Be thou plucked up by the root, and be thou planted in the sea; and it should obey you."

You can move a SYCAMINE TREE BY FAITH but not a bracelet? If you move the tree it is not magic but when you move a simple bracelet it's magic? I do believe there are magic tricks, and demon powers moving things also, but to what effect? What is the motive behind that kind of power? Glory to the mover?

Why did brother Branham do it? What was his motive? TO SHOW THE WOMAN THE SCRIPTURE IS TRUE. ALL THINGS IS POSSIBLE TO THEM THAT BELIEVE. Thus he demonstrated what faith can do! And when he did the woman began to believe.

" MATTHEW 17:20 † And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you."

SO YOU ARE ABLE TO MOVE MOUNTAINS BUT NOT A BRACELET. SILLY. JUST PLAIN SILLY.
First move the bracelet and show me you can move things, by your mustard size faith. Then move a tree and after that move a mountain, and you would still be in Scripture.

2. IF YOU EVER PRAY FOR PEOPLE AND THEY DON'T BELIEVE YOU ARE A MAN OF GOD WHOSE PRAYERS GOD WILL HEAR-stop immediately and try to get them to believe you are a man of God first, else all your work will be fruitless.
Jesus had a terrible time in Nazareth trying to perform miracle's there. WHY? They did not believe He was anything more than the son of Joseph and Mary. They did NOT RESPECT Him as anything more or worth more than a carpenter. To them He wasn't a great Man of God, thus very little things happened unto them BECAUSE OF THEIR UNBELIEF in Him. They had more faith in the prayers of the local priest than any prayer Jesus would offer.

This same principle applied to brother Branham, you, or anyone else. Those who held him as a false prophet would NOT have benefitted anything from his prayers BECAUSE OF THEIR UNBELIEF that God can operate through him. They would have doubted every word he spoke. It is as simple as that.