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archibald
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Post subject: Re: Martin Luther King Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:30 am |
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:35 am Posts: 70
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@Tsur.
As a man who suffered under the most severe form of segregation known in Africa, I should be able to smell a racist 100 miles away. Brother Branham never gave me that idea. What you believe of him is up to you. You might have another reason why you would like to pile on him every thing you can. But racist first of all believe them to be some superior people. This belief would be reflected in their doctrine where they see their fellow human being as something " Untermensch" or sub human.
Brother Branham spoke to one of the worst type in this conversation.
" 53-0608A DEMONOLOGY.PHYSICAL.REALM_ CONNERSVILLE.IN DE 21-40 MONDAY_ « 29 † Now, I was talking to a doctor here awhile back in Louisville. He said, "Why, Reverend Branham..." I was talking about how the natives of Africa, how they eat, just go down by the... Oh, some of the awfullest things you ever see, how they would eat, just pick up things that's contaminated, and maggots in it, just shake them around, maggot and all. Don't make any difference to him. See? They said... Drink anything, don't make any difference what it is. He said, "But, Reverend Branham, them people are not human." I said, "Oh, yes, they are. They sure are human."
I said, "The closest thing to a human being, in the beast line, is a chimpanzee. And you've tried for four thousand years to get one mutter out of that chimpanzee, and he can't do it," I said, "cause he can't think. He has nothing to think with." Oh, you can learn him little things like a horse, gee and haw, or put on glasses, or smoke a cigar, or balance hisself on a bicycle, ride a horse, or something like that; but it's just like gee and haw to a horse, or to a dog or something like that. I said, "He's an animal."
53-0608A DEMONOLOGY.PHYSICAL.REALM_ CONNERSVILLE.IN DE 21-40 MONDAY_ « 31 † "But you let me go back in Africa, to the wildest tribe they got, and that's the little tribe of the bushman." And I said, "Probably his great-great-great-great-grandfather never saw a white man nor nothing. The only thing that he knows, he don't even know which is right and left hand. The only thing he knows is eat, and he eats what he can get his hands on, if it's human flesh, anything else, don't make any difference to him, just so he eats. But let me get him at five years old, and at fifteen years old he will speak good English and have a good education. Why? He's got a soul. God made him a human being, and he's got just as much right to hear the Gospel at least once, as we have of preaching around here all over America, to people over and over and over, and begging, persuading and everything. Let him hear it one time, and watch him scream and run to the altar real quick." See? Yes, sir.
A racist would not stand up against racist doctrine such as that-in fact he would agree with it. A racist woul also not acknowledge that all humans are equal. He would happily agree with slavery.
" 63-0606 SHOW.US.THE.FATHER_ TUCSON.AZ THURSDAY_ « 218 † Reminds me of a story. Here not long ago, down in the South, we used to buy slaves, colored people. The Boers brought them over and sold them; the Dutch. And they were sold in America here for slaves. It's wrong. 219 Never was intended for men to rule over one another. We have one God. The color of the man's skin has nothing to do with his soul. We all come from one blood. A yellow man can give a black one a transfusion of blood, and so a black man give you, the white man. We're... God, of one man, made all nations, yes, sir, out of one man. But they've always... God made man; man made slaves. It never was right, in the beginning."
Saying like Scripture that we all come from one blood is like saying blacks whites and every other shade inbetween are family. Afterall Noah did only have 3 sons and only him, his wife and his 3 sons with their wives got out of the ark. This brother Branham reflected in his beliefs
" The Chinese can go down and take the blood plasma and give it to a white man. The colored man, the same blood that's in his veins, is in the white man's veins. They can give blood one to another. But there's not one animal that can give a blood plasma. Why? God has made of all nations, one blood. Exactly. Every one of us come off of that same tree of life to Almighty God. Whether you're yellow, brown, black, or whatever you are, we are one blood. Ask your doctor, now, if that's right. White, colored, no matter who you are, brown, or whatever you are, don't make any difference. Chinese, Japanese, Negro, whatever you may be, don't have one thing to do with it. You got the same blood. And the same Jesus Christ, died for one, died for all. God tore down the middle wall of partition and made us all one in Christ Jesus. What a message for that. 54-0516 QUESTIONS.AND.ANSWERS.LAW.HAVING.A.SHADOW_ JEFFERSONVILLE.IN SUNDAY_
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archibald
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Post subject: Re: Martin Luther King Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:17 am |
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:35 am Posts: 70
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@ Luv Jesus.
There are millions of Angels in heaven I believe, and to worship them would NOT BE RIGHT.
But then there is One Angel [the Pillar of Fire] who calls Himself God. It is this Pillar of Fire who took his photo with brother Branham.[1950] When Moses saw the Pillar of Fire [Angel of the Lord] that Angel told him: Ex.3:6 “ ...I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God. 7 And the LORD said, I have surely seen the affliction of my people which are in Egypt, and have heard their cry by reason of their taskmasters; ...” Note He says He is God, verse 7 calls Him LORD, and He refers to Israel as His people. He thus is God Himself in the form of an Angel. Moses hid his face when he saw that Angel because he was afraid to LOOK upon GOD. Would it have been wrong for Moses to fall down before this Angel who called Himself God, and address Him as Lord? Apparently Moses had immense reverence for that Angel.
This is God in Holy Spirit or Angelic form. He took on flesh by coming INTO the body Jesus whom He created for Himself. Thus this Holy Spirit or Angel of the Lord, also called the Christ [Anointing] fathered or created a flesh and then inhabited it and we bow down before that flesh and worship HIM who has become flesh. Thus when we bring glory to Jesus, we bring glory to the Spirit of God living in Him. Now when Paul met that Light he called the Light LORD. Who are you Lord he asked? And the Lord answered back from the pillar of Fire: I am Jesus, whom you persecute.
To persecute the Angel is to persecute Jesus, for HE IS JESUS says Acts.9:5. And brother Branham said we have seen HIM again in this day! I believe it, but you don’t have to. Just please be careful what you say about it and play it safe. For you could be wrong. If you LUV JESUS, you will play it safe because a Pillar of Fire called Himself Jesus in Paul's day and since I assume we were not there it could very much be that Jesus you LUV.
Brother Branham thought so and so do I by investigation of the evidence at hand. Rev.10:1 DID promise that mighty Angel would come. Paul also said the Lord Himself would come. Mal.4:2 also said the Sun of rigtheousness would be here with healing in His wings. Rev.3 says He would stand at the door. So just be careful and LUV JESUS even if He appears as the Angel of the Lord. 63-0323 THE.SIXTH.SEAL_ JEFFERSONVILLE.IN SATURDAY_ « 385 † And here we have been seeing Him do that right down along the road. We seen it come down in the scientific research and had His picture taken, the great Pillar of Fire, Who led the children of Israel, Who met Paul on the road. And we know this same Pillar of Fire that led Moses down there in the wilderness, by that same Pillar of Fire he wrote several books of the Bible, for he was anointed with the Word. This same Pillar of Fire coming upon Paul on the road to Damascus, he wrote many books of the Bible, called the Word of God. And now, Lord, that same Pillar of Fire by the evidence of the proof of the Word and by scientific research, we see It here, revealing the Word of the Lord.
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seekthetruth
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Post subject: Re: Martin Luther King Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:21 am |
Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:32 pm Posts: 1442
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archibald wrote: But then there is One Angel [the Pillar of Fire] who calls Himself God. It is this Pillar of Fire who took his photo with brother Branham.[1950] When Moses saw the Pillar of Fire [Angel of the Lord] Not to change the course of your response, but I must remind you that Branham's teaching on "the pillar of fire" was not scriptural, and he used it to elevate himself. In your response, consider these points: - WMB claimed that Paul saw the "pillar of fire" in the wilderness, referencing WMB's own "pillar of fire" in Houston. There is no scripture to support Paul seeing the pillar of fire, he only saw a light in the wilderness and then heard a voice that was Jesus
- There is no scripture to support the Pillar of Fire being an angel. The pillar of fire was God.
- There are so many parts of the "Houston halo" story that simply aren't true that we have to ask ourselves which part of the story actually is true. Using WMB's "pillar of fire" as an example presents problems in of itself.
The real bottom line here is that we've somehow got off track. This is a thread about WMB's false claim about the number of people that would die because of Martin Luther King (which never happened), and we are debating pillars of fire. There is a "New Topic" button that you are welcome to use.
_________________ John Collins http://www.seekyethetruth.com
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Tsur Driver
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Post subject: Re: Martin Luther King Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:15 pm |
Joined: Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:20 pm Posts: 859
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@Seek, THe following is a quote I have always used to show that WMB's Serpent's Seed, were it true, which, of course it isn't, could not have come through the Flood. It is based on this quote about the black race Quote: 53-0729 QUESTIONS.AND.ANSWERS.ON.GENESIS_ JEFFERSONVILLE.IN COD WEDNESDAY_And I heard a discussion back there, where…Cain got his wife. Well, the one that had the floor seemed to be the best of the argument; he said, ‘I tell you where Cain got his wife,’ said, ‘Cain went over and married a great big female ape.’ And said, ‘Out of that ape come forth the colored race.’ Said, ‘You notice the colored person's head's kind of peaked like that, like the ape is, in the head.’ Well, I stood there, I was just about two months old in the Gospel I said, ‘I don't want to differ with you men, 'cause I'm not a student, I just got saved.’ But I said, ‘If that be so, then the colored race of people would've ceased to exist when the antediluvian destruction, when the world was destroyed with water, for Noah and his family was the only ones that was in the ark. That was the only one that was in the ark. The colored race would've ceased to exist….” It appears to fly in the face of what WMB purported said privately about the Snake being a black person. Anyone have any kind of proof that WMB actually said that? WMB did have links with the KKK, which many people did back then. Charles Fox Parham, the founder of American Pentecostalism was a member of the KKK as well, as well as being a British Isrealite, as was FF Bosworth and Benjamin Purnell, who's House of David WMB often visited. tsur
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seekthetruth
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Post subject: Re: Martin Luther King Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:38 pm |
Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:32 pm Posts: 1442
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Well, my good Tsur ... you have to look at it from all angles. I'm not going to say whether WMB believed it or not, but considering the fact that there would have been a male and a female ape on the ark ... 
_________________ John Collins http://www.seekyethetruth.com
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Tsur Driver
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Post subject: Re: Martin Luther King Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:17 pm |
Joined: Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:20 pm Posts: 859
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I hate to admit it, but I really laughed at your reply. You, are soooo bad! In fact, you are incorrigible. 
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NewClothes
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Post subject: Re: Martin Luther King Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:29 pm |
Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:01 am Posts: 340
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Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Martin Luther King Jr.
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archibald
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Post subject: Re: Martin Luther King Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:20 am |
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:35 am Posts: 70
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@ John. You said:
WMB claimed that Paul saw the "pillar of fire" in the wilderness, referencing WMB's own "pillar of fire" in Houston. There is no scripture to support Paul seeing the pillar of fire, he only saw a light in the wilderness and then heard a voice that was Jesus There is no scripture to support the Pillar of Fire being an angel. The pillar of fire was God."
The Pillar of Fire is a LIGHT, and the Light called Saul upon his name same as He did to Moses.Scripture says about the Angel of the Lord being a Pillar of fire: "EXODUS 3:2 † And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed."
But of course you will have some theology to explain it away. As for me I will step off this topic, as your theology is a bit tiring.
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seekthetruth
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Post subject: Re: Martin Luther King Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:21 am |
Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:32 pm Posts: 1442
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No, no theology to explain it away. It's quite the opposite -- the scriptures mention NOTHING about a pillar of fire, only describes a light that is all around Saul. And it does not mention a light shining in the form of an angel, the light was all around.
Angels do appear as light (as does Satan), but WMB taught that the light was Jesus, not an angel.
Either way, you would have to have some theology to explain it into a pillar of fire.
_________________ John Collins http://www.seekyethetruth.com
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Tsur Driver
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Post subject: Re: Martin Luther King Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:53 pm |
Joined: Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:20 pm Posts: 859
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@Arch,
You wrote >>>The Pillar of Fire is a LIGHT<<<
Yes, but that does not mean that a light is a pillar of fire. That is like saying a horse is an animal, but that does not mean an animal is a horse.
tsur
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